A resident of Vitebsk, who went to fight in the Ukraine on the side of the self-proclaimed People's Republic of Donetsk, said the site "Russian planet", what volunteers actually go in the Donbass.
In early October, the Chairman of the KGB of Belarus Valery Vakulchik, speaking in the Belarusian parliament, warned citizens participated in the armed conflict in Ukraine on either side - a criminal offense. "Certainly, we have a responsibility for the mercenary. It does not matter which side of the war, these Belarusians. It falls under our legislation. In the case of identification and proof of such action is to take action - said the head of the KGB. - If such a criminal case will be, it will be known to the media know about it."
Belarusians who take part in military operations in Ukraine, may be prosecuted under Article 133 of the Criminal Code - "Mercenaries". Article provides imprisonment for a term of three to seven years. Liability shall be those persons who recruit Belarusian citizens to participate in the confrontation in Ukraine (Article 132 of the Criminal Code). Recruitment, training, funding, and other material support for the use of mercenaries in armed conflict or hostilities punishable by imprisonment for a term of seven to fifteen years. So those Belarusians who do decide to go to war-torn Donbass, unlike many leave for Ukraine Russians did not disclose their names for fear of prosecution. "Russian planet" spoke with one of these - a 27-year resident of Vitebsk, who until recently fought in the DNI. Received during the fighting concussion, he returned to Vitebsk to rehabilitation.
- My name is Sergey. It's real name - with the same name and nothing no need to invent. In war was callsign "Rider" - began a conversation companion RP.
- Why so?
- I do not know. Probably because I like came immediately said that inside the APC ride will not only on the armor. This is the first thing Dad taught me. They say: "Inside'll burn - and there will be nothing to bury. And with armor jumped - and live! ".
- Many Belarusians fighting in the east of Ukraine?
- Are fairly common. That is, it is not exotic. I would say, equally on both sides, but this is a very rough estimate. Just Novorossia Belarusians sprayed - arrived on different channels, fighting in different orders ... On the side of Kiev they are combined, because there went purposefully Belarusian nationalists, they know each other. Early in the summer a lot of talk about the Belarus squad "Pahonya" which is formed to fight on the side of Kiev. Then stop talking about it. I understand that the guys went into one of the detachments of the "right sector" and changed the name to be harder to calculate. But there, pravosekov, as I understand it, Belarusians still hold together.
- As you yourself came to the east of Ukraine?
- I can not tell you - I'm substituting humans. I can say it does not hit. First, we have started to appear in Vitebsk leaflets on behalf of the RNE, calling to go defend slavic. Lots of flyers and I saw when I came to Minsk. Everywhere was a reference to a group of "VKontakte", where, in fact, held recruitment. But I never trusted Barkashovtsy, and therefore did not communicate with them. I already got there later, and once in Donetsk - there just as it started.
- You pay a lot? Promises to pay is generally performed?
- So, let's immediately identified. Neither I nor my friends did not go there for the money. But not for the idea. There generally to "ideological" bad attitude. They go, keeping in mind some romantic image of war. And after the first skirmish with them some days diarrhea. In the truest sense.
I'll tell you who was driving there. We drove those who did not find themselves in a life here. Who shines nothing but sleeping on a local factory, marry ugly Baba and produce children who are destined to the same fate. Who can not break out of the province, where everything was frozen as it was 20 years ago. Of those Belarusians who I met there, no one Minsk resident. Because they have a different mentality, they see life differently, they have other options.
I know that the citizens of Minsk were on the other side, at ukrov. But there were nationalists of those in the 90 to Minsk with a white-red-white flags marched. Serious guys, yes. And those who went, as I - from the provinces - they are never the policy relationship had not. Rode to war because we were told: there will be a new country, and life in it will be possible to start again. Become someone. They say that when this is over, those who wish to stay, will house and land. What we'll be there heroes, like all those who fought for independence. Of course, money is also promised, but not mountains of gold. That is not the money went, went for the opportunity to reverse their fate.
- Who are you there, fought "shoulder to shoulder"? This is local? Mercenaries? Volunteers?
- In different regions all different. There are even two adjacent combat zones all can be different. As we have - about 50 to 50. That is half local, half visitors. Visitors - mainly from the cities of southern Russia, the volunteers. A lot of people like us, that is lost in life, sitting without work. This work in Belarus you always provide, albeit in the province and pay a penny, but the state will work. And the guys that come from, say, Kamyshino, Saratov, Orenburg, told how for six months without work sat.
One told me: "In the 90 who remained out of work - the brigade went to the bandits. But now it is not a topic, do not go there. A New Russia - is the theme, and this is when you are, and you can feed the family. "That is normal these guys. And the commander of the normal. He is a Russian, a retired major, served in the 14th Army just in time for the conflict in Transnistria.
The only thing we never spoke, so this is where the weapons with which we fight. I know exactly what percent of 70% - from local looted arsenals. But there were also examples of such AK105, AK102, whom the Ukrainian army he has never been. But we did not ask. Fewer questions - less problems.
More regularly've encountered with the Cossacks - Russian, in a sense. They are on their trucks all the time here and there dangled. I do not know why they could not sit on the spot. But we do not trust the Cossacks. That they are in front of TV cameras daring and fleeing in battle first. And they are very lazy. We always firmly commanding: "More sweat - less blood." Here we have the land and digging. We have always been the main trenches, bunkers, and replacement. And the Cossacks never did nothing of the sort. Says: "We are not men to dig the ground. Our business - cavalry attack. "And they themselves sit, roasted kebabs.
- The Chechens are fighting there? Tell the truth about them?
- I do not know, we do not intersect. I've heard a lot about them, yes. Heard very different. But this is war. Rumors can walk the most incredible, so I will not say anything - I do not want to say that he has not seen.
- What more memorable?
- They all take hostages. It's just such a currency. Not only the enemies captured, or is there who had a yellow-blue [flag] posted. Take and just local. How many times to come to us for help! There will come a woman, 50 years old, and cries: "lads, help neighbors out of your husband and son taken away at night. I know the police are kept local, but do not let me. "Well, let's go, we understand. Says that these local help us why you took them? Our unit known, respected, because people are always released.
Still, I remember, in the administration of Makeyevka was seeing - on the first floor in the basement, ten people sit, blindfolded, hands tied. Men all. I ask, who is it? They say: "Ukropov taken prisoner." "And why do they tell you? Would trade on their own ". "Let them work, restore that destroyed" - are responsible. "So they'll you do not work, just sit," - I was surprised. Responded that none of my business.
- Constant shelling civilian areas, houses, schools that show on TV, it is true or propaganda?
- Neither one nor the other. Of course, no hammer of "Grad" targeted at residential quarters, nor ukry (regular army), nor natsgvardeytsy nor we. No there is such a thing. And not much there at all ammo to peck at the white light as a penny. Do you know how one missile "Castle" is worth? A rocket "Hurricane" is still ten times more expensive! So there is no such to shoot civilians on purpose. But if, say, in the courtyard of an apartment house and put mortar fire to lead, even only two or three shots, then otvetka certainly arrive. Arrivals from whence shot. And, of course, the house can get too, and falls. I've seen so many times.
Actually, a lot of stupid things done in the war. But some things are surprising. For example, can destroy everything, but cellular work. Not everywhere, of course, but mostly works. Because it is necessary and militias, and ukram. I for all time in a combat zone no satellite phone did not see, they're just not needed. If necessary, in most cases, work cell.
Yet that's what I want to say. Kid I was interested in weapons, read a lot about it. Read, for example, that the accuracy in the AK much less than that of the American M16. And there understand - all this nonsense! When the rod on your trench, you do yourself out of it does not protrude - hands raised above the parapet with a gun and palish towards the enemy, and he did not even see. Called "press fire" until its not back out KPVT and mortars. What then nafig accuracy?
- You'll come back to Donetsk?
- I'll be back. But, apparently, only to spring. Anyway, no one in the winter will not fight. It's only the Red Army during the Great Patriotic winter war. And such groups as in the DNI, in LC, they do not fight in winter. I'll be back, because I did not complete their work.